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  1. #11
    Hi Bryan,

    Thanks for your interest and support. Sent you a private message

  2. #12
    Thank you for the PM.

  3. #13
    I strongly suggest you L.R.Baggs to check the Lyric Pre EQ preset for your next editions. You could improve seriously there to get a really good balanced and natural sounding system.
    Roll off the 1 K frecuency (at least -12 db). Add some bass on 100/150 HZ. You'd be so muh better then.

    Question: Can i (or a luthier) modify the Lyric Pre EQ preset?????????? How??????

  4. #14
    Hi Mono,

    I'm unable to say how to alter or modify the preamp circuit in order to change the response. We designed the system to respond accurately to a wide variety of guitars and, due to factors specific to each guitar, cannot be guaranteed to reproduce each guitar precisely. That's why it would be necessary to make those EQ adjustment with your amplifier/PA channel or if you have an interfacing preamp/EQ device.

  5. #15

    My Lyric is lacking bass response as well on Taylor

    I replaced the expression system in my Taylor 714 with a Lyric and was very dissapointed. It sound about identical to the A/B/C analysis mono provided. I have an iMix in one of my other Taylors and it sounds very good! I just thought I'd try the Lyric since it had some good reviews. I've since pulled the Lyric and gone back to the Taylor ES for now. I love the low end from Taylor's ES but, the mids sound like a kazoo!

    With that being said, I'm trying to decide if I purchase another iMix or an Anthem. I'm looking for a very solid response on the low end and feel the element may be a factor. Which pick would you recommend for good low end when comparing the iMix and Anthem? I've decided to cut my losses on the Lyric and it's sitting like new back in the box until I find a home for it.

    I was also a little confused about your statment concerning the two presence controls? My Lyric only has one presence control on the volume knob. Can you please clarify?

    Any information you may be able to provide would be very helpful!

    Thank you!

  6. #16
    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your question. Sorry for the delay. I'm also sorry to hear the Lyric didn't pan out in your Taylor. I'm happy to provide the materials you would need to install it into another guitar.

    Between the iMIX and the Anthem, my personal choice would be the Anthem. The pickup and microphone crossover mix allows the pickup and microphone to operate where they sound their best. It still provides the punchy string response of the Element but virtually eliminates any of the quacky midrange response normally associated with undersaddle piezo sensors. The undersaddle pickup handles the low frequency duties, relieving the microphone of its risk of low frequency feedback.

    The iMIX would be the preferred choice if you want the option of splitting the output of two full-range sources. The iMIX can output in stereo, allowing you to connect each signal to separate channels, EQ them separately, apply different effects to each signal, etc.

    The iMIX is a very good system but I would say the Anthem is capable of more accurate plugged-in sound in a wider variety of playing situations.

  7. #17
    I really appreciate your response and recommendation concerning the Anthem vs. iMix.

    Again, I'm really after that solid low end bass response that I'm able to obtain with iMix as well as the Expression System on the Taylor. I just do not care for the mids on the Taylor. The iMix sounds pretty good in my 414 however, I would like to try the Anthem just for a change of pace but, do not want the same $300 buyers remorse with the Anthem that I experienced with the $200 Lyric.

    I'm also seriously looking at ordering the Fishman Rare Earth Blend system but, I'd like to remain loyal to LR Baggs since I've used them for many years. At the risk of repeating myself, you feel I will be satisfied with the low end response and responsiveness of the Anthem vs. iMix or Rare Earth?

    I realize that this is a relative question based upon preference but, I also know you have more experience with these different systems than myself.

    Thanks again for your advice.

  8. #18
    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for replying. I want to mention, if you weren't aware, that the Anthem is available in a "streamlined" format called the Anthem-SL. In the SL model, the Anthem preamp circuit is pre-set to fully utilize the crossover - Element handling low frequencies up to 250Hz and Tru-Mic handling everything from that point and above - as well as miniaturized for attachment to the output jack. Its soundhole-mounted control is just like the Lyric's but with a cream face.

    The Anthem-SL is the same suggested cost as the Lyric so you don't have to choose the more costly Anthem.

  9. #19
    At this point, I'm not worried about the $100.00. I just want the best sound I can get out of my 714. I want good response and great low end like the iMix delivers. I do NOT want another quacky sounding pickup for $200 like the Lyric. I was very dissapointed in the Lyric. It would be fine for someone singing Bob Dylan songs in a coffee house but, for someone that wants to "play out" in alternate tunings and exercise fingerstyle capabilities such as Tommy Emmanuel style...the Lyric isn't it. I want something with some ooompfh on the bottom end and is responsive with fingerstyle. Are you saying the Anthem is the ticket?

  10. #20
    Hi Chris,

    I hope you had a good holiday.

    If I were in your situation, I would probably consider the iMIX because you have good results with it in another guitar. You have a reference point that can affect how you perceive other systems. I suggest seeing if you can experience a version of the Anthem system already installed in a guitar. Do you have a Larrivee dealer in your town or city? If so, they offer a few models with the Stagepro Anthem installed.

    I personally feel the Anthem is a "best-of-both-worlds" system that mixes the best parts of each signal together to create one that sounds more like the guitar it's installed into than others.

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