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    Question on DI for Lyric

    Greetings, first post.

    I've been a working gtr player forever, I've never gigged with acoustic gtr until recently. I've always miked my D28 in the studio.

    Live, I've recently wrestled with an iBeam in the axe,..both feedback and boomy sound,.it really needs a ton of EQ. I tried the Venue and the Para DI the other day at Guitar Center,..they were cool. What I found was the PADI, took too long to dial in, and I doubt it would solve the feedback issue anyway, The Venue,..using the feedback control,..seemed to make the guitar sound anemic by the time I got it to actually work, it removed most of the gtrs body.

    Changing gears. I decided to try the Lyric Mic,..it should be arriving any day.

    My question,...yes,..there is one...

    I'm after a real simple setup,..plugging direct into house PA,..or guest amp,..or my mackie PA. In a variety of settings.

    Is the lyric in NEED of as much eq as the iBeam is? Or,..is it needed that I have a Venue. I ask because all the demos I've heard of the lyric were impressive,.but all were run through the Venue.

    Is the pickup going to work straight into a mackie board,...make a fine EQ adjustment in a minute and have it sound like my guitar?

    I'm really hoping that extensive EQ and feedback suppression are not going to be needed.

    Thanks for any heads up on my quest for simplicity,..and quest in having a D28 sound like a D28, quickly.\

    Best-

    PMcC

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    Hey PMcC,
    The Lyric doesn't usually require much, if any, external EQ. We use the Venue for all of our demos for a variety of reasons- in some cases, the notch filter has helped a lot in cutting out feedback when we've needed to achieve higher volume levels.

    If you are planning on playing through a lot of different setups from day to day, the Venue can add a lot of consistency to your sound. You may be able to get away with not having it, and still getting a great sound, but every gig is different.

    I use the Venue on a weekly basis, and what I like about it the most is that I can take it anywhere and dial in "my sound" through every system that I've encountered so far. If you don't own the Venue already, you can definitely install the Lyric first and see how well it does in a few different situations before buying an extra piece of gear.

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    That's a good idea,..I have a couple gigs coming up. I'll see if the Lyric just works,...without extra stuff first

    Thanks.

    PM

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    Lyric came today, installed it. I love it. My gtr sounds like a D28,...imagine that! with the EQ flat into my mackie PA.

    no hyped zing,...no dull woof that needs EQ till the cows some home. Just a great sounding acoustic guitar.

    BRAVO.


    I don't know if this makes it's way up to the boss,...so I'll write a separate email congratulating him

    Thanks again!

    PMcC

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMcC View Post
    Lyric came today, installed it. I love it. My gtr sounds like a D28,...imagine that! with the EQ flat into my mackie PA.

    no hyped zing,...no dull woof that needs EQ till the cows some home. Just a great sounding acoustic guitar.

    BRAVO.


    I don't know if this makes it's way up to the boss,...so I'll write a separate email congratulating him

    Thanks again!

    PMcC
    Hi, what sort of PA did you use?

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    Caleb, I've been gigging with the Lyric and it works well but I'm finding I'm not able to play the big rooms or outside loud venues without feedback issues. I'm considering for a no-brain plug and play approach. Switching to using a M80. Can you tell me how the tone will differ and if it will cure the feedback issues I'm having?

    Thanks again

    PMcC

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    Thanks for letting us know! If you ever do any recordings with it, we'd love to hear it.

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    The M80 will definitely be more resistant to feedback, but because it is a magnetic, it will sound less natural. Magnetic pickups tend to sound a little harsh and metallic. That can be taken care of with minor EQ, but so can the Lyric feedback. Do you have a preamp currently that has a Notch Filter? I always recommend a Notch Filter for the Lyric. If you can cut ouot the primary feedback resonance, the Lyric can be played much louder without issues.

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    thanks Caleb, No,. I've been gigging straight into the board. I can see where a more sweepable mid q will also aid in boxiness of sound. The D28 is a mid heavy gtr so,..understandably it is needed. As when I mic it in the studio,...usually around 200 needs some cutting.

    I'm going to try a 7 band EQ pedal on tonights gig, it's not a loud gig, but it will give me an idea,...I'm limited on funds but feel the venue may be overkill for my needs as well.

    thx again

    PMcC

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